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03-14-2010, 12:38 PM
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Oil Filter
Has anybody found a resonable alternative to the BRP oilf filter. I would love to get a reusable one.
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03-14-2010, 12:42 PM
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03-14-2010, 12:55 PM
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^^second that
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03-14-2010, 01:15 PM
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Perfect. Thanks. I was also wondering it there were any reusable ones out there.
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03-18-2010, 07:51 PM
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I was going to pick up one of those stainless steel filters, but after reading this, I dont think its such a great idea... Anyone have any thoughts on this?...
Motorcycle Oil Filters & Air Filters
"There's a new type of filter being marketed, the "laser cut stainless steel filter," which we're told is "good for the life of your vehicle." These filters typically have 35-40 micron holes, which is really not acceptable. They typically have 30-40 square inches of filter material, which is really not acceptable. A paper based element is a 3 dimensional filter - when a particle gets stuck deep in the filter element, oil can still flow around it. The stainless steel elements are 2 dimensional - when a particle gets caught, one of the holes is clogged up.
I don't see how you can assure that all the holes get cleared out when you clean these. Certainly simply soaking the filter in kerosene is not going to release particles that have been jammed into a hole at 60psi. Blowing the filter out with air sounds good, but a motorcycle filter is too small to let an air hose inside.
These stainless steel filters cost about $120, about 25 times what I pay for a Pure One. Since I use my filters for about 8,000 miles, that means I have to go 200,000 miles to break even. I've never put more than 60,000 miles on a vehicle.
I don't think this technology is ready to use yet. When the holes get down to 20 microns, and the surface area up to about 100-150 square inches, then I think I'll consider using one. Meanwhile, "good for the life of your vehicle" is not an impressive claim if the device shortens the life of your vehicle."
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03-18-2010, 10:17 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Droors92
I was going to pick up one of those stainless steel filters, but after reading this, I dont think its such a great idea... Anyone have any thoughts on this?...
Motorcycle Oil Filters & Air Filters
"There's a new type of filter being marketed, the "laser cut stainless steel filter," which we're told is "good for the life of your vehicle." These filters typically have 35-40 micron holes, which is really not acceptable. They typically have 30-40 square inches of filter material, which is really not acceptable. A paper based element is a 3 dimensional filter - when a particle gets stuck deep in the filter element, oil can still flow around it. The stainless steel elements are 2 dimensional - when a particle gets caught, one of the holes is clogged up.
I don't see how you can assure that all the holes get cleared out when you clean these. Certainly simply soaking the filter in kerosene is not going to release particles that have been jammed into a hole at 60psi. Blowing the filter out with air sounds good, but a motorcycle filter is too small to let an air hose inside.
These stainless steel filters cost about $120, about 25 times what I pay for a Pure One. Since I use my filters for about 8,000 miles, that means I have to go 200,000 miles to break even. I've never put more than 60,000 miles on a vehicle.
I don't think this technology is ready to use yet. When the holes get down to 20 microns, and the surface area up to about 100-150 square inches, then I think I'll consider using one. Meanwhile, "good for the life of your vehicle" is not an impressive claim if the device shortens the life of your vehicle."
I think the Scotts filter is designed the same way the stock filter is so the filter area s/b close to the same. Not sure about all this 3d/2d stuff the article talks about, either filter can get clogged depending on the size of the particles. I’d think the metal filter since it filters better is going to require more maintenance, the whole argument of a 35 micron particle the size of a blood cell btw may be excessive #1, #2 "would permanently clog and not be cleanable for a particle lodging in it a 60 psi", the article states since I would think 60 psi would make it pass and the DS only sees around 30 PSI, so I dunno. Then they guy wants it down to 20 microns I’m not sure he knows what he asking for, at that point he almost argues with himself unless he was just joking.
Me and my engine builders have never been a fan of them.
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10-23-2010, 02:33 PM
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Has anyone used one of these & would recommended it? Im planning on changing the oil soon & want to know which I should get. Im still on the fence with scotts oil filter. DiRtDevilz1, do you have one of these?
Also, I hear K&N just released there own, but its still not on the K&N site yet, so I guess it would still be a while before I can get it...
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10-24-2010, 09:59 AM
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we used one back when we ran suzuki's. it never "caused a failure" but I believe that it caused premature engine failure.
We order a generic filter that costs about 1/3 of the Can am filter
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