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Old 02-11-2010, 01:27 PM
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Jump advice.

Guys,

I want to ask for your help in order to improve my jumping technique.

Most of the times I land with the nose of the bike (See video).

BTW I'm the first one on scene, so I suck, but not as much as the guy behind me...

Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

Regards

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Old 02-11-2010, 03:12 PM
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Loosen up man.. don't fight against the bike and make sure your neutral standing point.
Try to blip the throttle a little more on the take off... that will keep your nose from diving as much to,
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Old 02-11-2010, 03:25 PM
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xrider is right, loosen up and when you get to the jump pop the throttle 70% when you come to the jump 80%at the lip of the jump, should keep you good
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:02 PM
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x2 ^^^^^^ pin it too win it! def loosen up your more likely to wad it up all tense like that than if your loosey goosey. lol. same on the throttle advice. stay on the gas through your take-off and you can let off while mid air to help level out, and then blip it as your landing
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What everyone else said is basically what you need to do. By your video it seems your pretty timid of the jumps. I understand, everyone was at one point. You need to power threw them, and power out of them. You need to carry your speed threw the jump, and ride it out. You are thinking of the jump as an obstacle in its self. Its had to explain but you need to have a "flow." Watch videos on youtube of pro riders(there the easiest videos to find) and watch how they flow threw the jumps. It's all about carrying your speed.

3 P's. Practice, Practice, Practice.


Edit: After watching your video again I wanted to add another comment. This might be just be MY riding style but I sit on the quad with my ass a little ways back on the seat most of the time. I ride threw the jumps and stand a little in the air and absorb the landing with my feet, then start to sit down again and ride out the corners, etc.

Watch this vid. You'll see how Wimmer crouchs into the jumps then stands a little, absorbs the landing, and crouchs down again. You'll also see how he rides back on the bike. You seem to be standing pretty far forward. Could be a problem with your weight distribution.


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Old 02-11-2010, 11:55 PM
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I’ll add a few things we learned along the way here, I know where your jumping skills are can tell by the video we were there 6 years ago…..timid is a good place to be imo jumps have caused the worse injuries I have seen my son in his racing career and others. We have seen the ER many times as a result from trying to take on more than we could handle and show off. If your on a unprepped packed track with bald tires be careful about blimping the throttle as you get better always respect the track and your tires, doing that almost lost my sons hand coming up short went over the bars.

Today we are big air jumpers and put on local racing schools jumping best attribute I can't even advice my son anymore he is beyond my help but I still offer some advice from the side lines which is good if you have a buddy to watch you somethings are obvious. One thing I did back in the day when training my son is use markers to hit each time pushing them out further and further so then one day when the marker is the landing pad you will clear and land right you will have done it incrementally, safely, and with a new level of built confidence. Also as you progress in distance as stated above learn where the center of gravity of the quad is and how to roll your body around it to clock the quad where you want it, to each side and forward and rear. Also learn when you are getting more air and have more time to think to use the throttle/back tires spinning (clock nose up) brake in the air clocks nose down. This clocking as you get better will be crucial in manipulating the quad to land as you want, especially when side by side with another quad in the air. Most don’t land on all fours at the same time but if the you think about that provides the best shock response and wear.

Also there is “pre-load” of suspension, meaning right before you launch and as you go up the launch pad push down on the quads suspension then lift it back up with your weight to get more air more launch especially when there is little running distances, good for arena crosses but learn and practice it. Some will position their body forward and straight up in the air to push the forward momentum on long jumps.

Shock settings are critical, you want to adjust your rebound setting so when you land a jump you don’t bounce back like a spring but have enough rebound speed to not “pack up” in whoops. High speed compression is important to bottom out at least once on the track so soften the setting to you do.

Also if you ever do get in a bad situation where you got to bail always do it to the side and tuck n roll to break the fall, never go over the bars and break the fall with your hands or where the quad or others can run over you....

Good luck take it slow be safe!

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Start small! Loosen up and just go for it. Don't do anything you aren't ready for, you will be fine.
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Quote: Originally Posted by blaster99 View Post
Start small! Loosen up and just go for it. Don't do anything you aren't ready for, you will be fine.
+1...I've never had a "serious" wreck riding and I do think that it is because of my motto...never ride way above your experience level. There is a difference in pushing the envelope and completely ignoring it. Push the envelope to get better but remember to respect the machine and terrain and you'll be fine.

Start small and build your confidence up! Just keep riding hard!
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Thank you guys. Your advices really change my mind.

I'll work on it and be patient... and I little less coward too

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ya, grow a pair...LOL, just don't go to the size of church bells! GL mate, and post some video!
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