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01-14-2012, 01:37 AM
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Hmm...
Just got done Reading the article in the new Dirt Wheels about the champ quad. They were talking about the steering made a world of change.
Recently I've been putting my Wienen Quad back together and noticed the Holtz Steering stem is "backwards". I look at the pictures in the article and notice they are the same way. the upper part where the bars mount have HRP facing back.
I always liked how steering and handling was better on the wienen quad rather than my other race quad.
just bored so i figured i'd share!!
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01-14-2012, 11:21 AM
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really? that is interesting anyone else have any knowledge about this? DS already handles well..but improvements to it would be spectacular
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01-14-2012, 12:38 PM
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I was thinking cause it sets the rider back just an inch more for more control.
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01-14-2012, 03:02 PM
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Can you post some pics to compare the two setups?
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01-14-2012, 05:20 PM
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I would like to see this as well. So you mean that they welded the mount on backwards, not that the entire steering stem is flipped around. I can't see how that would be possible.
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01-14-2012, 06:51 PM
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my houser stem has a 20 degree tilt back. So much so that i had to change my mount link for my stabilizer mount becuase it was to long. The main change to the steering stem on the ds was the use of a suzuki ltr450 stem. I belive you have to use a bearing to make it work.
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01-15-2012, 01:08 AM
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i can get some pictures up tomorrow. the bottom is still the same and i think like 6 inches up the stem, theres a bolt or something going thru that connects the upper and the lower and the uppwer part is just turns 180degrees.
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01-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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you can see on the lower part theres a connection.
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01-15-2012, 08:27 PM
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Interesting. The base of the stem (that the tie rods connect to) is not a Holz, at least it is not the current design they have on their website. It really looks like the base from a stock BRP stem, and then they drilled holes in it and added bolts to have adjustable stops.
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01-15-2012, 09:42 PM
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We've been running that kind of stem for a couple years. We run the +1 height -1 back. It seems to have kept him on the back of the bike more, which helps with the Can-am's having no traction.
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